it seems that the anti cult world is extremely concerned at the moment about a group called "project portal" in brazil.
apparently there are hundreds of members and extensive defections are taking place at the moment, and the group leader, one urandir olivera, is being 'persecuted'extensively by the media.
cult watchers are drawing parallels with jonestown in that they fear olivera may lead his loyal followers in a collective 'beaming up'.
The leader of the group appears to be a major hoaxer of supernatural phenomena, just like Jim Jones was, Jones , a couple of times,rigged 'assassination attempts' on his life, was shot, and then would raise himself up again, displaying the magically removed bullet for all to see. This guy, Olivera, claims to have been abducted by aliens in very dramatic fashion. The evidence of a recent abduction:
It would be funny if it wasnt so laughable.
it seems that the anti cult world is extremely concerned at the moment about a group called "project portal" in brazil.
apparently there are hundreds of members and extensive defections are taking place at the moment, and the group leader, one urandir olivera, is being 'persecuted'extensively by the media.
cult watchers are drawing parallels with jonestown in that they fear olivera may lead his loyal followers in a collective 'beaming up'.
It seems that the anti cult world is extremely concerned at the moment about a group called "Project Portal" in Brazil. Apparently there are hundreds of members and extensive defections are taking place at the moment, and the group leader, one Urandir Olivera, is being 'persecuted'extensively by the media. Cult watchers are drawing parallels with Jonestown in that they fear Olivera may lead his loyal followers in a collective 'beaming up'.
Urandir leads followers in practising 'preparing for lift off.' Below, the groups compound.
Eerie reminders of Jonestown. This one may be worth watching over the next few weeks.
i just wanted to say hi to the group here.. been baptized for 15 years now.
my wife has been baptized for a little less than that time period.. been an aux poi., reg pio, ms. wife is a reg pio currently.
now im just a lowly publisher :d. have had many doubts over the years on small matters.
Winston. I am most curious, if you have not read Ray Franz books, both of which are a pretty basic source of knowledge re WT "false prophecy" where have you got your information from? I see that you know a bit of their history already having cross referenced the 2 statements about the 1975 blame shift, and you mention the 'erroneous' Finished mystery book. Have read that book? Im curious as to your reference material.
By the way brother, this is by no means an interrogation, it is stictly a matter of personal curiosity as to how you have sourced the material that has convinced you they are a 'false prophet' . Myself, I read much of their material 'long hand', page by page, from hard copy. few seem to do that today, relying on internet posts.
in anointed experience #1 i recounted a two part question from the co to test whther i was really 'anointed': "he then asked me to describe what the body is: i told him the body of christ is the christian congregation of anointed made up of 144,000, to which i am a member.
he then said i was partly correct, but there is another part that i also need to answer about "discerning the body.
" clue: not about how i knew i was anointed, but rather something about the body.
Natas response is well worth reproducing again.
...."I get the feeling that this CO was so far off the wavelength of the anointed that the only way he could relate to the concept was by reducing it to the carnal level. He didn't happen to suggest that porno-film theme music should be played during the Memorial service, did he? Maybe he anticipated "new light" about the WTS-approved "Messianic Position" for spiritual intercourse. ".......
in anointed experience #1 i recounted a two part question from the co to test whther i was really 'anointed': "he then asked me to describe what the body is: i told him the body of christ is the christian congregation of anointed made up of 144,000, to which i am a member.
he then said i was partly correct, but there is another part that i also need to answer about "discerning the body.
" clue: not about how i knew i was anointed, but rather something about the body.
Geesh.
That girl with the cross in "the exorcist" must have been a member of the anointed
i just wanted to say hi to the group here.. been baptized for 15 years now.
my wife has been baptized for a little less than that time period.. been an aux poi., reg pio, ms. wife is a reg pio currently.
now im just a lowly publisher :d. have had many doubts over the years on small matters.
Greetings. Winston. OBrien is the name, interrogation the game. lol
"Word bookstore" or "Koorong".
look this site provides the troof about planet x. http://www.planetxvideo.com/.
this is an planet x apostate site.
http://www.badastronomy.com/.
Craig Why must I always be punished?? sob.
Is Lord Xanu a brother of Lord Xenu ?? just wondering here. And Im curious how you know Lord Xanus intents, perhaps Lord Xanu did for you what Yahweh Elohim did for Rael, inserting the means into his brain so that Elohim can speak direct thru Raels mouth, see direct thru Raels eyes.??
look this site provides the troof about planet x. http://www.planetxvideo.com/.
this is an planet x apostate site.
http://www.badastronomy.com/.
Some interesting snippets of chat over there at the "TT " chatrooms,as everyone struggles to come to terms with the “disappointment”:
QUOTE:…. “I have often felt let down, hoping they or something would show at a certain time, and subsequently they say it is my fault that I want to leave so badly.”
The brothers were so eager to be with their Lord that they read things into the WT that were never said. Let everyone “adjust their thinking” accordingly.
QUOTE: “Excellent point! I totally agree. In my opinion this "white lie" acted also as a final rehearsal for the real occasion. Then when the
real one comes it will feel somewhat like you had experienced it
already before and you'll be better mentally prepared for it. I
quess we are going to have hard but very interesting times during
the coming months.”
A “True Believer” there!
QUOTE: “People who have changed their lives based on Z material would probably have been looking for someone to
follow anyway and joined a survival group if the Z's hadn't caught their
attention first. They are responsible for their own actions. Ztalk recommended
learning skills and planning an escape. They did not say drop everything and
head for the hills. They were always clear that May 15 was the early date. They
never said, "Believe in us". They said, "Check it out".”
We never said it WOULD happen brothers! We told noone to sell their house and Pioneer! WE said nothing at all! We merely showed what the Bible says!
look this site provides the troof about planet x. http://www.planetxvideo.com/.
this is an planet x apostate site.
http://www.badastronomy.com/.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/49089/1.ashx
Ive ben on this one since late March. Its been a good one.
